Yes. The draft. THAT was beyond terrible. I think we see things similarly. People shouldn’t be used. And the draft was using men in the worst possible way.

What we will need to do is withdraw from exploitation. When we do that, men and women and others will be on the same side and this voluntary separation won’t be necessary.

Separation is a strategy and the ultimate goal is living together in peace.

Neither as soldiers nor incubators, but as people.